---
sheet_format: 1.0
id: 2018-11-nipedu-99-pedagogie-francophonie-numerique
title: "Pédagogie, francophonie et numérique"
title_en: "Teaching, the French-speaking world and digital technology"
speaker: Erwan Rougeux
with: [Régis Forgione (Nipcast, host), Fabien Hobart (Nipcast, host), Gaëlle Charcosset (Mission laïque française)]
date: 2018-11-17
event: "Nipédu #99"
place: "Lycée Molière, Zaragoza, Spain (capsules recorded during the Rencontres MLF numérique)"
format: podcast
language: fr
duration: "1:32:38"
video: null
audio: https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3
slides: null
topics: [education, mission laïque française, digital transition, school networks, open source, moodle, francophonie]
source: "Summary written by Claude (AI) from a local Whisper transcript of the episode's audio (Ausha feed); Erwan's passages identified by voiceprint; the other speakers are named from the show notes, the hosts from the episode's introduction and Nipcast's own pages. Not a verbatim transcript; check the recording before quoting."
review: reviewed
review_date: 2026-10-22
---

# Pédagogie, francophonie et numérique

**In one sentence:** In Nipédu's 99th episode, a ninety-minute tour of the Rencontres MLF numérique at the Lycée Molière in Zaragoza, Erwan Rougeux, then IT director of the Mission laïque française, explains with Gaëlle Charcosset why the event brings school heads, technical staff and teaching staff into the same room for the first time, and what the network plans to do with it.

## TL;DR
Nipédu, Nipcast's podcast on school, education and digital technology hosted by Régis Forgione and Fabien Hobart, devoted its 99th episode (published 17 November 2018) to the Rencontres MLF numérique, the Mission laïque française's network-wide meeting on digital technology in schools, hosted by the Lycée Molière in Zaragoza under the theme "growing up in a digital society: the role of the school". Eleven capsules follow one another: a Rosetta-stone project at the Lycée français d'Alexandrie, the Lycée Molière web radio, the network's pedagogical forum, the proceedings of the 2014 Zaragoza congress, Moodle for flipped classrooms, vocabulary work with allophone pupils, phonology workshops, and the opening address of the association's director general, Jean-Christophe Deberre. Erwan speaks in the capsule with Gaëlle Charcosset, the two organisers ([1:04:46](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3886)): the technical side cannot serve teaching without listening to teachers, the event is built so that three publics who normally never talk meet, and the next step is to multiply these meetings inside the schools and keep the whole community, parents and pupils included, in the loop.

## Human stake
- **For whom:** the heads, technical and teaching referents of the network's schools, and the pupils and parents invited with them.
- **What is at stake:** digital tools chosen for teaching, by people who understand each other's job.
- **The documented choice:** for the first time, heads, technical and teaching staff share the same workshops ([1:06:18](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3978)); "multiplication packs" are planned so schools can run their own meetings ([1:08:58](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4138)).

## Erwan's key points
- In 2018 he introduces himself as technical director for the information systems of the Mission laïque française, supporting the schools in their digital transitions ([1:05:09](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3909)).
- He says the hard part for a technical team is adapting to users' needs: "we don't know the teacher's job, we don't know its difficulties", hence the difficulty of finding simple, effective solutions in the service of teaching ([1:05:53](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3953)).
- The cornerstone of the event, for him, is its audience: the first time the network brings together school heads, technical referents and teaching referents, publics who usually do not talk to each other because everything goes through the head ([1:06:18](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3978)). Putting them in the same context is meant to feed "the construction of digital teaching in the service of pupils" ([1:06:40](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4000)).
- Next step, as he states it: decline these meetings inside the regional networks and the schools, with "multiplication packs" so that schools can run them at their own scale ([1:08:50](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4130)), and extend the existing mesh between headquarters and school heads to technical staff, teachers, parents and pupils, so that they work together ([1:09:08](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4148)).
- Coming out of a Linux workshop, he quotes a speaker on Ubuntu, "I am what I am thanks to what we all are", and says these values are reflected in the association ([1:09:24](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4164)).

## Outline
- [0:30](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=30) Introduction by the hosts: a "Nipédu voyage" episode, recorded over two days at the Rencontres MLF numérique in Zaragoza, with a double aim, discovering the Mission laïque française and the people who make it, and seeing how a learning organisation sets its digital intentions pragmatically ([5:39](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=339)).
- [6:55](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=415) Ahmed Farouk, Lycée français d'Alexandrie: a Rosetta-stone project linking the Arabic fabulist Ibn al-Muqaffa and La Fontaine.
- [16:22](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=982) Camila, Daniel and Marta Gutiérrez: the Lycée Molière web radio.
- [23:48](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=1428) Julie Higounet and Jérôme Train (MLF America): the pedagogical forum; sign language in a bilingual preschool, by Claire Périfel.
- [34:57](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=2097) Christophe Gallais: the proceedings of the first Zaragoza congress.
- [48:39](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=2919) Michel Bur and the @Mlfpedagogie account; an interview of Serge Bergamelli (Éducavox).
- [54:00](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3240) François Fagoaga: Moodle to standardise flipped-classroom practice.
- [1:01:46](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3706) Jérôme Le Bars, interviewed by Julie Higounet: allophone pupils' vocabulary in their mother tongue.
- [1:04:46](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3886) Gaëlle Charcosset and Erwan Rougeux, the organisers: what #MLFnumérique is (a hashtag since the 2014 Zaragoza congress, a site, these meetings), who the event is for, how the theme was chosen, what comes next, where the material will be published.
- [1:11:31](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4291) Nancy Belinchon: phonology workshops in CP with Bitsboard and La magie des mots.
- [1:19:09](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4749) Jean-Christophe Deberre, director general of the Mission laïque française: opening of the meetings.

## Notable quotes
> "Je suis directeur technique pour les systèmes d'information de la Mission laïque française et j'accompagne les établissements dans leurs transitions numériques." — Erwan Rougeux, [1:05:09](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3909)
*"I am technical director for the information systems of the Mission laïque française, and I support the schools in their digital transitions."*

> "Nous, on ne connaît pas le métier d'enseignant, on ne connaît pas les difficultés du métier d'enseignant, et c'est la difficulté de trouver des solutions simples et efficaces au service de la pédagogie." — Erwan Rougeux, [1:05:53](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3953)
*"We don't know the teacher's job, we don't know its difficulties, and that is the difficulty of finding simple, effective solutions in the service of teaching."*

> "C'est la première fois qu'on réunit des chefs d'établissement, des référents techniques et des référents pédagogiques. Et c'est des publics qui généralement ne se parlent pas." — Erwan Rougeux, [1:06:18](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3978)
*"It is the first time we bring together school heads, technical referents and teaching referents. And these are publics who generally don't talk to each other."*

> "L'avantage de Linux, et surtout Ubuntu, est dans son nom : je suis ce que je suis grâce à ce que nous sommes tous. Et c'est des valeurs qui se reflètent dans notre association." — Erwan Rougeux, [1:09:36](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4176)
*"The advantage of Linux, and above all Ubuntu, is in its name: I am what I am thanks to what we all are. And those are values reflected in our association."*

## Questions this answers
**Q: What was Erwan's role at the Mission laïque française in 2018?**
A: Technical director for the network's information systems, supporting the schools in their digital transitions, as he introduces himself here ([1:05:09](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3909)).

**Q: What were the Rencontres MLF numérique?**
A: A network-wide meeting of the Mission laïque française on digital technology in schools, hosted by the Lycée Molière in Zaragoza under the theme "growing up in a digital society: the role of the school", organised by Gaëlle Charcosset and Erwan Rougeux; #MLFnumérique had been the network's digital hashtag and site since the 2014 Zaragoza congress ([1:05:26](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3926)).

**Q: Why did the organisers mix school heads, technical staff and teachers?**
A: Because, in Erwan's words, these publics usually never talk to each other: teachers go to the head, the head goes to the technical team. Meeting in the same workshops is meant to feed digital teaching in the service of pupils ([1:06:18](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=3978)).

**Q: What did the network plan after the event?**
A: Erwan announces "multiplication packs" to let schools run their own meetings, and the extension of the existing mesh between headquarters and heads to technical staff, teachers, parents and pupils ([1:08:50](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4130)); Gaëlle Charcosset adds that workshop material would go online on the MLF numérique site, feed training on the pedagogical forum, and become teaching tracks on MLF Monde ([1:10:24](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4224)).

**Q: Were pupils and parents part of it?**
A: Yes: the Lycée Molière web radio and pupil councils spoke about their digital practices, and parents of the host school were invited and could post on a forum opened on the MLF numérique site (Gaëlle Charcosset, [1:06:51](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4011)).

**Q: What does the Ubuntu line say about his values?**
A: Coming out of a Linux workshop, he repeats a speaker's reading of the name Ubuntu, "I am what I am thanks to what we all are", and says the association's values are of that kind ([1:09:24](https://audio.ausha.co/9KWj1S5Gvx0K.mp3#t=4164)). It is the earliest recording on this site where he ties open-source culture to the school network's values.

## Mentioned
Nipédu, Nipcast, Régis Forgione, Fabien Hobart, Mission laïque française, Rencontres MLF numérique, #MLFnumérique, Lycée Molière (Zaragoza), Lycée français d'Alexandrie, Ibn al-Muqaffa, La Fontaine, MLF America, forum pédagogique, Moodle, Linux, Ubuntu, MLF Monde, Éducavox, Bitsboard, La magie des mots, Jean-Christophe Deberre, Gaëlle Charcosset